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I like what you did with this. I saw what the other guy was complaining about. And I think that was really more a semantic collision than a real disagreement.

In the overall context of what you wrote, and because I'm a little familiar with your thinking, it's obvious to me that you're not advocating for the dissolution of the individual into the collective. You're trying to hold both truths in their tension—that we are individual wholes but we are also all parts of a greater whole.

It's difficult to find language that is precise enough to hold such tensions that verge on the paradoxical yet powerful enough to fully expose the insight. Not to mention the fact that others can read subtext that rings their alarm bells or that falsely confirms their point of view even that's not what was intended at all.

For example, I know that when you talk about individuals as nodes, you're referring to network theory. You aren't depersonalizing individuals, which would also be a form of dehumanization. You're referring to the point of view from the whole that views identity nested in the larger system we're part of.

Likewise, you're probably synthesizing from the thinking traditions and principles of cybernetic theory, systems theory, chaos theory, attachment theory, and so on. I see that's so I'm not offended by the terminology. But someone with a different lens on some of the insider terminology could mistake what you're saying for an argument toward collectivism.

I think your underlying idea about how we need to progess is completely on point. I think we are finding the limitations of the current system. I believe that is a compound problem: one half requiring progress, and the other half requiring us to hearken back to truths we've forgotten.

So if I were to suggest editing this as a manifesto, I would probably try to hedge a little more with language protecting the distinction between the parts and the whole so that the system isn't mistaken for a "soup" by those who are on guard against collectivism. And I make it clear that the advancements of our civilization and the truths we need to get back to are safeguarded whole also pointing to the need to go back to even deeper truths and to move forward to more clear and conscious solutions.

Just my two cents. It really was a very brave endeavor and I think you did a good job where it is .

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Love it. It definitely lands.

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